Burn MY flag

Once in a while, it’s good to catch up with home.

The Sun (From Malaysia Today)

12th Sept, 2007: Expel those who burn flag

In the Dewan Rakyat today, B.Suresh Ram reported that the torching of the Jalur Gemilang ignited the MPs’ passion on the need to respect the national flag and punish those who insult and desecrate it.

Barisan Nasional (BN) MPs were particularly worked up over the incident and asked that the stiffest possible punishment be meted to the perpetrators.

Datuk Md. Alwi Che Ahmad (BN-Ketereh), interjecting in the debate on Budget 2008 by Datuk Raja Ahmad Zainuddin Raja Omar (BN-Larut), asked whether the burning of the flag amounted to a rebellion (derhaka).

“The flag amounts to our nation. Burning the flag amounts to a rebellion,” he said.

Datuk Bung Mokhtar Radin (BN-Kinabatangan) said that in the past, he had talked about Wee Meng Chee over his action on the national anthem.

“Today, there is another Wee Meng Chee. We should expel (halau) such people from the country. Use any law available to expel them,” he said.

Mohd Said Yusof (BN-Jasin) said the act showed such people did not care about the dignity of the country when they committed such acts.

Raja Ahmad Zainuddin said such people, regardless of their political affiliation, had committed an act of rebellion by torching the national flag.

“The authorities should investigate … they should find the mastermind behind the incident … irrespective of the political affiliation or the community they come from,” he said.

Datuk Mohamad Aziz said: “Warriors would hold up the flag at whatever cost. If the right hand is incapacitated (putus), they hold it up with the left hand. But today the people have resorted to burning the flag,” he said, adding that people who committed such acts should be detained under the Internal security Act or other laws.

Lim Kit Siang (DAP-Ipoh Timur) interjected and sought to defend Wee Meng Chee.

“Wee Meng Chee did not burn the Jalur Gemilang. Instead he took along the flag when he went to study overseas. He also took along the flag when he won a competition,” he said.

Mohamad retorted: “This is not about whether he is a Chinese or a Malay. He was abusive of the country.”

“But that is not fair. That is not right. He did not burn the flag,” Lim said, amid an exchange of shouting from MPs.

Deputy Speaker Datuk Dr Yusof Yaacob, after several minutes, managed to bring the house under control after Datuk Ismail Abd Muttalib (BN-Maran) said: “The pensioners in the villages had never rebelled (derhaka). It was the youths in the town who burned the flags. They should get out of Malaysia.”

Raja Ahmad Zainuddin, however, appealed to his peers not to jump the gun and let the authorities conduct their investigations. “Lets wait for the investigations. We want to know who is the mastermind (dalang).”

Salahuddin said: “Do not doubt our loyalty to the country. During our AGM, we raised the Malaysian flag too. BN MPs should listen to Raja Ahmad

Zainuddin and allow investigations to be concluded.”

Is it just me or did the government just became more retarded by the moment?

Comments
plc wrote:
2 clowns are talking c**k again!
12/09 10:53:34

Sudahlah tu wrote:
Sampai juga agenda ini …
Balik balik pakai modal ini dalam parlimen …
Wang gaji yang diterima dibayar balik dengan perbahasan tidak ada penghujungnya …
Inilah mental MP Malaysia yang bersidang untuk menghabiskan masa mereka sebab telah dipertanggungjawabkan dan diamanahkan.
Di luar Parlimen nanti , tutup satu mata …
Kalau U tak suka , U boleh keluar ..
12/09 11:51:38

abdullah wrote:
We have some of the most uneducated and worst-mannered MPs in our parliament. Bodowi, that really makes you stupid… Kesian.
12/09 12:08:46

rafidadah wrote:
kenapa ni?! semua mp free sangat ker?!
kenapa tak bincangkan binatang liar yg lepaskan tembakan ke arah orang ramai?!
adakah ni satu lagi diversity mata orang ramai supaya “terlupa” siapalah mangsa?! siapa yg berlaku kesalahan?! siapalah telah melanggar undang2?!
12/09 13:00:54

lunas oh lunaih wrote:
betul ke polis yang menembak tu tak pakai uniform? kenapa tak pakai ?
apa agenda tak pakai uniform.

MAYBE the one who burnt the flags is SB.or one of the mat rempit paid by who knows???

MAYBE HE BURNT the AMERICAN FLAG…haha
12/09 13:40:05

TianCi wrote:
Cannot burn flag but can squander the National Treasury!!! That is TREASON!!! Hang the people in KBS who are involved in the issues!!!
12/09 13:40:20

anakwatanKL wrote:
“In the Dewan Rakyat today, B.Suresh Ram reported that the torching of the Jalur Gemilang ignited the MPs’ passion on the need to respect the national flag and punish those who insult and desecrate it………
Datuk Bung Mokhtar Radin (BN-Kinabatangan) said that in the past, he had talked about Wee Meng Chee over his action on the national anthem.”

Excuse me, before you guys go on your shouting or ‘lynching’ spree, exercise thought on the actions of your fellow members in the dewan. One waved his keris which is a symbolic and respectable object earlier in the attempt to assert authority which only came out just as foolish, arrogant and unethical.

About Wee Meng Chee, he’s just a Malaysian student abroad who’s homesick, as per previous article, and does need to be guided or educated instead of being threatened or ridiculed.
12/09 14:59:53

rogue wrote:
Hello Bung & Az,

The Indons just burnt many of your Jalur Gemilang, where’s your warriors?
12/09 15:51:47

joeawk wrote:
Malaysians should respect the Malaysian flag and should not burn it. It is very disrespwectful. They should have burnt the BN or UMNO flag or perhaps thay have come to see UMNO as the govt and to get their fruatration out, they resorted to burning the Malaysian flag. Besides, it was just after merdeka and the flag is readily availanle.

BUT, that is that, not the most important.What about the crooks and assholes MPs and cabinet members, not excluding those in senior govt positions,especially those many crooks among the KSUs, who make pledges to carry out their roles and responsibilities honourable but which turn out otherwise? What do we make of them. UMNO and the govt is full of such asshole crooks.
12/09 16:11:51

mountain man wrote:
Punish those who burn flags, WHAT ABOUT those who squandered away millions like Dato Zakaria?
12/09 16:35:23

IbnAbdHalim wrote:
Malaysian parliament resembles the planet of the apes. Could digest what come out of it. Incompetent MPs talking about patriotism, and yet how patriotic are they?
Who torched the national flag? There’s a big question mark there. Could it be the SB? It’s always their tactics to paint a bad picture on the opposition.
12/09 18:22:53

IbnAbdHalim wrote:
typo: couln’t
12/09 18:23:39

temanmu wrote:
The Police is the govt lackey. They are in cahoots with the nation’s plunderers.

Just talk only…. investigate lah… “no further action” … kes tutup!
13/09 02:10:08

smalluncle wrote:
Burning of National Flag CERTAINLY is DERHAKA. Malaysia is a country, it cannot do wrong. If at all things are not right, its because people managing the country. So Please spare the flag.

Now, if buring of flag, composing Negarakuku must BUANG NEGARA, compare like to like, these people also need to be BUANG NEGARA, for they strip the country of its wealth, a consequence that can make the country BANKRUPT, or bring shame to Malaysia in the eye of the world. These peoples are:
* those guilty of all the mismanagement of peoples’ money as highlihted in the DG report
* Those responsible for “IMPROVE” our standing in the corruption index.
* those who are committed of crime trading pirate CDs and illegal trding of logs.
* those who disrespect the existnce of other races in a multi racial country “Malaysia” and want them Keluar
* those who do not behave like Good Malaysian be it in rally or in parlimen.
* those , those, those, aiyah, tired of typing lah, just read the articles in MT including the achieved articles lah.
NOW, that is bigger DERHAKA.

Ah,so, if we also BUANG these people, MALAYSIA will be the Shangrila of ASIA, if not the world.
13/09 23:09:46

MALAYSIA BOLEH!

Now, I’m more convinced than ever that Malaysia is not bodoh, it’s BN that is bodoh. Hence, it’s no longer “bodoland” for me, but “BNland“.

Same concept as “Bushland” for USA.

Seriously, Malaysia needs a vendetta to heal.

Random footnote: MY is the acronym for Malaysia.

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7 responses to “Burn MY flag

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  2. ‘Seriously, Malaysia needs a vendetta to heal.’

    lol

    just like the whole issue of making cakes with the flag on it. the government needs to worry about more serious issues in our country than just their flags. what’s the point of a flag if the country sucks anyway? nobody wants to wave it around proudly.

  3. This whole flag issue is just another distraction point for them to use against us in order to cover up the dirtier side of Malaysia.

    We do need a vendetta to heal.

    We also need people who are actually willing to take action and stop nagging.

    I happen to be nagging a lot.

  4. Well, honestly speaking, its the same old story that never ends. People criticizing and not actually offering a good solution. And when they have a solution, they’re not in power to execute it because of BN. Opposition parties are just becoming stronger opposition parties and not convincing revolutionary leaders.

    The people who should honestly be blogging about politics are the people living in poverty in Malaysia. Their lives are most heavily affected by it. Not us, were just scumbags.

    bodicea: I’m afraid I have to oppose what seems to be a generalization which you’ve made. I don’t think those who care enough but are not doing anything significantly big about the shit that is going on in Malaysia, are “scumbags”. At least, not me. And those who aren’t of legal age to vote and/or run in a party, too.

    At least some people try to let others know that they care and want a change, which I believe they would do their best to make it happen, only when they have the chance and means.

  5. bodicea: Then be a politician, and really make a change. I believe that criticizing about politics in blogs is a same old story that it never ends. Just beware that once you’re into politics, you know you somehow gotta play dirty to achieve the good intentions you want.

    bodicea: I believe that to make a change, it’s not about how much you have to consciously create to make a change. Sometimes, it’s about influence. Sometimes, it’s about how much you make do with what you already have and can do.

    Personally, the sole study of the subject called Politics bores me. To become a politician, I lack the determination to put in the effort to care for a big community. Hence I doubt I’ll ever want to be one.

    My interest here is not about changing politics or creating/changing/implementing laws. My concern is the balance of the ratio between fairness and unfairness in a land where integrity and harmony are promoted, especially since equality seemed to have had a greater meaning when the country’s independence from the British colony was fresher.

    I think all critics have their value. It’s only a matter of how constructive they are. Sometimes I don’t see the point of commenting on an article altogether, because it should be able to speak for itself.

    From what I see, it’s no longer about who can make a change. It’s why is there still no obvious change for the better.

    To stop people from criticizing about politics in blogs because it seems redundant and endless, is akin to discouraging people from sharing opinions when they strike. I talk about politics only when I have a strong opinion about the subject of matter.

    And critiques happen because the problem(s) (still) exist(s).

    Some problems may seem old. But history tends to repeat itself and often in a different package.

    And people sincerely criticize because they care.

    Conflict is the mother of progress.

    If you want to play dirty (for “good intentions”), at least be aware who and what you’re playing with. And who can see you while you’re at it.

  6. You got your point there. And you should stand by it.

    But nah, I ain’t stopping people from criticising about politics in their blog. I only mentioned that poverty stricken people who blog about it will mean so much more than the common bloggers. I’m mainly concerned of the genuinity and honesty of the blogger, how much politics concerns him/her, or whether he/shes just a ‘sheep’ of one side influencing others along.

    This is my own personal opinion, that if I’m a reader, I would rather read the genuine content than the sheep’s.

    bodicea: I feel you, and concur. : )

    Just a note, please try not to over-generalize, like what you did before, next time.

  7. I got one of these in my email:

    Please, I Need Your Help Urgently.‏
    From: Bodicea (blackorient@gmail.com)
    Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 5:40:53 AM
    To:

    How are you doing today? I am sorry i didn’t inform you about my traveling to Africa for a program called “Empowering Youth to Fight Racism, HIV/AIDS, Poverty and Lack of Education, the program is taking place in three major countries in Africa which is Ghana, South Africa and Nigeria. It as been a very sad and bad moment for me, the present condition that i found myself is very hard for me to explain.

    I am really stranded in Nigeria because I forgot my little bag in the Taxi where my money, passport, documents and other valuable things were kept on my way to the Hotel am staying, I am facing a hard time here because i have no money on me. I am now owning a hotel bill of $ 1550 and they wanted me to pay the bill soon else they will have to seize my bag and hand me over to the Hotel Management., I need this help from you urgently to help me back home, I need you to help me with the hotel bill and i will also need $1600 to feed and help myself back home so please can you help me with a sum of $3500 to sort out my problems here? I need this help so much and on time because i am in a terrible and tight situation here, I don’t even have money to feed myself for a day which means i had been starving so please understand how urgent i needed your help.

    I am sending you this e-mail from the city Library and I only have 30 min, I will appreciate what so ever you can afford to send me for now and I promise to pay back your money as soon as i return home so please let me know on time so that i can forward you the details you need to transfer the money through Money Gram or Western Union.


    “If a man says something, but there’s no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?”
    – Anonymous

    Google says it’s spam. Could your email have been hacked?

    bodicea: Right on, dude. Check for “Hacked” post in my dead blog

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